[00:01:50] ... I don't suppose anyone here has launched actual model rockets before? [00:03:01] I'm sure someone here has [00:03:04] I have a long time ago [00:03:26] I miss having that Astrocam rocket... [00:03:48] I seen a digital camera version, but was only out briefly. Didn't have the money at the time. :\ [00:04:29] launching rockets is really fun, both in KSP and real life :P [00:05:34] I could just make my own.. buy the motors.. I'd still wanna do a camera based one. [00:06:02] The film one was neat but.. lot of times I launched, I messed up setting things, or the film wasn't fast enough. [00:33:49] I launched fireworks and toy balloons. [02:36:59] ... ok lol... [02:37:31] get satellite contract offered. Go to tracking station. Shows orbit, but also a sat-dish icon on surface with a location name.. ugh, had me so confused [02:37:57] here I thought it was another contract, but no idea what the dish icon meant. Had to do a little de-bugging [02:40:04] .... anyways [03:01:39] ISS Urine Tank Level: 8% [03:19:11] "The percentage is in range 0 to 1" that's not how percentages work dude [03:22:16] Mistranslation of probability? [03:22:44] UmbralRaptor, not probability, progress along a spline [03:22:53] not sure what the correct word would be [03:25:06] position? [03:31:36] "The percentage is a float value with a range of 0 to 1 (inclusive)" ? [05:27:02] https://www.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-mini-supercomputer-fastest-single-161806876.html [05:42:13] nince, can i have one? [06:10:01] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:15:40] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:45:09] arrrgh I can not make a decent vehicle for love, sex or money, non of my craft want go straight ahead down range without ocilating or pulling... [08:46:27] the premade crafts all act fine, so it's almost certainly my own fault, I just can't figure out what it is i'm doing wrong [08:47:20] the usual com vs col probably [08:48:04] preferably yellow ball in front of cyan ball [09:23:52] com should be *SLIGHTLY* in front of col, yes? [09:28:53] yes [09:29:10] too much and it becomes a dart that flies an arc and hits the ground [09:29:23] dont forget that com moves with fuel [09:56:55] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwO4ohqkjb0 a ksp gun [09:57:05] a very nice slowmo mid way ^ [10:54:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:39:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:15:58] Althego: ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [12:16:15] Althego: ive always found that bit of the guide to be a bit of an exaggeration [12:18:06] gartral: the most important thing is yellow in front of cyan [12:18:16] how far isnt as important as most people say [12:18:29] it is quite important [12:18:41] i had lot of uncontrollable things where the distance wa too big [12:18:57] thats a personal problem then [12:19:07] no, that is caused by physics [12:19:26] it is your personal problem that you think the distance is not important [12:19:37] Althego: "slightly" as he put it, is an overly precise method [12:21:53] Althego: any "lawn dart" effect can be overcome with sufficient control surface usage [12:21:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:22:30] just as slightly unstable things can also be used [12:22:50] Althego: im not talking about the real world [12:23:12] im talking about KSP, and there are no reasonably sound methods to control an unstable craft in KSP [12:23:14] lso works in the game [12:23:23] as opposed to an overly stable craft [12:23:29] because it does not take drag into account, and that can stabilzie you enough for flight [12:26:07] Althego: anyways, slightly in front of has always been an overexaggeration and you can afford to go a decent bit forward [12:26:28] typically [12:26:28] that depends on what you mean by slightly and decent bit [12:26:31] depends on the craft [12:26:56] many people mean the balls must be touching (hehe) i think that is false, there can be some distance between them [12:27:25] http://www.wingsbywerntz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/CG-CL-TailForce1.png [12:36:58] Althego: tails can fix all problems [12:37:10] not in ksp [12:38:15] Althego: ALL PROBLEMS [12:38:47] only with ears too :) [12:45:27] Action: Rokker smashes Althego with a plane tail [12:45:36] *all problems* [12:46:02] ... and rokker? smash! [13:01:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [16:14:30] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:14:30] spacex launch postponed again [16:14:42] at least they could have pushed it to the weekend [16:23:43] I want to revive the flying pc fan [16:23:49] but it needs to be a surprise for dedd [16:33:19] https://78.media.tumblr.com/6c2aea12bdae6d474a20b4eabe2e8673/tumblr_ojsgjjPSK61r73bz3o1_540.jpg [16:41:08] .choose play war thunder|repair my heli [16:41:12] uh [16:41:21] repair heli [16:41:25] ;choose do something useful|no do something useful [16:41:26] do it! [16:41:26] Fluburtur: do something useful [16:41:46] well I just have to plug it to the computer in order do do the settings of the tail servo [16:41:57] will probably need to change the gains later too [16:43:05] im still gonna play some war thunder [16:43:13] to get the daily thing [16:43:17] hehe [17:25:07] attention! there is absolutely no cause for alarm! [17:25:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [17:29:14] Althego: DON'T PANIC [17:29:51] not so friendly letters [17:30:49] The wing is *not* on fire! [17:30:55] that [17:33:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_shsRfXqk [17:33:04] YouTube - Monty Python Airplane Pilots [18:14:20] Rokker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwO4ohqkjb0 [18:14:21] YouTube - Shooting the MBA Gyrojet Rocket Carbine - Sneak Preview! [18:39:45] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v phroa' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:59:24] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:19:26] Rokker https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/451827034805501962/20180531211735_1.jpg [19:27:50] winter is coming https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/02065/mcam/2065MR0109570000903723E01_DXXX.jpg [19:30:36] actually it seems to be summer [19:32:15] LOL. The ISS will be above me soon, and there is a thunderstorm, so I went to see the livestream. First thing I noticed was the camera wiggling on occasion. I thought it had a gimbal. Then, some sort of apparently soft bad or something drifted into view. I figured it must be attached on the outside nearby, though I did wonder why it drifted into view. And suddenly, a glove appears to fetch the bag out of view [19:32:15] again. [19:32:21] Imagine my reaction. [19:33:56] i cant [19:34:02] what is the importance of this? [20:21:40] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:22:01] Evening, Gentlemen. [21:05:00] APlayer: I'm gonna imagine it was surprise [21:06:09] Rokker: Intensify that [21:06:26] APlayer: anyways I'm assuming you were using hdev? [21:07:59] I was using this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtU_mdL2vBM I think that's HDEV, yes. [21:08:05] The EVA is still ongoing, too [21:08:13] meh [21:08:30] up until recently I suppose it wasnt live [21:08:34] which annoyed me [21:08:40] it was recorded [21:08:56] as you could tell vs the actual low quality live stream [21:09:34] looks like that has changed [21:15:43] APlayer: altho there isnt supposed to be a spacewalk today [21:16:02] Well, apparently [21:16:08] You see one :P [21:18:06] "(This stream may upset those who believe in a Theory such as Flat-earth, Please make an effort to share a constructive comment on live chat. www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/20/flat-earth-believers-youtube-videos-conspiracy-theorists)" [21:18:28] Gah [21:19:38] The stream is a recording, probably. It is not in sync with the NASA one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSTH0RBUV6I [21:19:39] YouTube - Earth Views from the Space Station's High Definition Earth-Viewing System [21:19:59] The NASA one is consistent with ISS tracker's terminator passage, too [21:21:48] APlayer: it annoys me that they dont say that on the video [21:22:05] It annoys me that it says "LIVE" in big red letters [21:23:22] Anyway, I'm off for today [21:26:48] APlayer: then you definitely arent watching NASA steam [21:26:59] those people livestream launches tha thappened weeks ago [21:32:30] Mat2ch is this the german anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLpxatSPQ1A [21:32:30] YouTube - TORPEDO BOYZ - Ich Bin Ausländer (Leider Zum Glück) (Official Video) [21:37:21] only marginally different than i remember [21:38:51] there was this segment in Karambolage (ARTE) once, where they asked 10 people in berlin to sing/whistle/whatever the french anthem, and 10 people in paris to do the same with the german anthem [21:39:42] outcome: 10/10 germans knew the french anthem, lots of them with text, and 1/10 french people knew the german anthem. and that 1 person was actually not french but belgian [21:41:09] I actually never heard of the german anthem [21:41:25] so I guess peoples in france are not interested about it [21:44:56] well, the melody is from some barely known composer called Haydn [21:45:30] and the text... well, we discarded most of that after some people took it literally that germany should extend between Maas and Memel [21:55:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:17:50] bwoop [22:18:16] how's everyone doing? [22:19:52] question for all the computer geeks in here: which computer accessories still come regularly with the noise donuts on the power cable? [22:21:52] transitbiker: not many [22:22:06] i figured as much [22:22:22] noise donuts? [22:22:26] the cheaper the thing..... the cheaper the thing :D [22:22:45] ive noticed them on traction control circuitry in EMU cars an locomotive [22:22:55] ferrite bead EM filter? [22:24:00] those weird plastic blocks on cables, i call them donuts because many of them are simple round ferrite ceramic things resembling a donut [22:24:12] some are more tube shaped [22:24:55] ok... so I'm starting a new game for Surviving Mars and I need a historicaly significative set of Coord on mars [22:25:40] probably look for NASA's data sheets on potential early probe landing sites? [22:25:55] i'm sure they are online somewhere [22:27:23] i do believe some of the charts were built from math worked on by "calculators", featured in the film "hidden figures". [22:28:27] there was also the manned mars rocket initiative, which was ultimately canceled [22:28:55] i do believe some math was done for that [22:29:17] well, officially documented math, i mean [22:30:47] transitbiker: it's for a game... [22:31:08] I just want to know what Viking or Mariner landed... so I went with Google Mars [22:31:16] google mars <3 [22:31:32] i like x-plane's mars mode [22:31:41] quite challenging [22:32:54] transitbiker: https://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561197994451548/ [22:35:04] oooo fun [22:41:22] reminds me very much of "space colony" [22:44:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Colony_(video_game) [22:55:55] any suggestions t extend flight time?? https://i.imgur.com/WsFRzFi.png [22:56:06] drop takns [22:56:08] tanks* [22:56:14] hmmm [22:57:01] i did just put taller gear to better accommodate the engines (touchy tail strike profile) so that may work [22:58:32] https://i.imgur.com/HL9Birk.png think there's enough room? [23:00:17] so i was researching hypersonic engines (the kind used on Y-12, SR-71 etc) and it seems that engine pre-coolers are actually a thing, though no production engines currently use them [23:00:53] ve2dmn, the music on that game is pretty decent! [23:01:11] you can also put wingtip tanks [23:01:19] if you're concerned about ground clearance for drop tanks [23:01:57] well [23:02:14] transitbiker: I could try another radio station [23:03:05] that is an option, however because of the wing forces at landing and at speed, i would want to minimize outboard loads [23:03:13] i'm trying to work without struts [23:03:31] ve2dmn, up to you ^-^ [23:04:14] the battery packs are on the wings, i'd have to move them to the fuselage, which may adversely affect the thermal profile [23:04:45] currently the middle 3 sections of the fuselage are coolest at the edge of the speed capabilities [23:06:04] i can test it, i guess [23:17:39] does not seem to affect thermal profile [23:18:59] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:19:38] last time i tried medium gear on small planes, the plane jumped up in the air when landed and quickloaded [23:20:57] that seems to no longer be an issue [23:21:07] which version was that? [23:21:31] not sure, might be 1.3.x [23:23:01] im on 1.2.2 still [23:23:59] not going to update for a bit [23:24:08] not fond of the new EULA [23:29:13] i like how the rock harvesters have realistic 'will contaminate nearby structures with dust" [23:30:27] well, it can take off [23:32:35] wow.. talk about FOD prone design! https://i.imgur.com/sbj5iKc.png [23:34:31] O.o [23:35:04] yeah its a small thing, drop tanks are good, but you gotta go about it the right way [23:35:20] i may end up doing top mounted on the wings [23:35:46] i hope that isnt the case, beause it will affect handling bigtime [23:37:44] ok, the tail strike profile with the tanks seems to line up with the existing one, just a bit of added heft and suspension travel on rotate [23:40:14] fuel profile set [23:46:24] that's quite the overwhelming tech tree [23:47:43] meh [23:47:51] hello everyone [23:47:55] it's mostly linear once you know it [23:48:12] I'm wondering if anyone knows how to get the forward direction of a vessel programmaticly [23:48:24] or the 'front' of the vessel [23:48:34] define 'programaticly' [23:48:44] with code through thr API [23:50:22] I think I found something [23:50:35] Krpc, kOS or modding? [23:50:47] modding [23:51:06] for everyone else: https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/api/class_vessel.html#a1d06dad7d53ef6fad5f3f3e563acbf83 <- this might do it [23:51:24] well the drop tanks worked [23:51:38] still feeding off them [23:51:40] yeah, the vessel class would do it :D [23:53:41] unanticipated side effect of adding the drop tanks: they seem to be acting as limited heatsinks for the wing [23:54:54] cold soaked fuel frost [23:57:14] dat cold wave tho [23:57:39] ve2dmn: Bit of therory here: Vessel has up, north, and east vectors [23:57:56] are those static or do they change with the rotation of the vessel? [23:58:15] let me check